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Hong Kong Horse Database Forum Index >> 香港賽馬 >> 練馬師胡森
Author 練馬師胡森
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註冊於: 13/03/2002
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發表於: 2013-03-22 on 15:43
首席受薪董事祁禮謙發出通告如下:



董事小組昨日就南華早報3月21日一篇題為「Woods Cries Foul Over Judgement Despite Victory」的報導所載述的練馬師胡森之評論展開研訊。該文由記者Michael Cox撰寫。



小組於聽取胡森及賽事管制主任獸醫郭沛德的證供後,已將研訊押後至另訂日期繼續進行,屆時會邀請Michael Cox出席。



與此同時,小組認為,為維護賽馬的最佳利益,必須對公眾公佈有關「經典皇牌」的抽樣程序。由胡森訓練的「經典皇牌」在2013年3月2日星期六沙田賽馬日角逐氹仔讓賽,於賽前及賽後均有被抽取樣本,詳情如下:


•「經典皇牌」曾於2月17日沙田賽馬日,在全天候跑道上競逐紅寶石讓賽,跑獲亞軍。根據既定程序,該駒於賽後被抽取尿液及血液樣本。除此等樣本之外,「經典皇牌」亦曾於上述賽馬日早上提供強制性的賽前尿液樣本。由2月17日至3月2 日即「經典皇牌」再次出賽之日,其間再無從該駒身上抽取任何尿液或血液樣本。


•「經典皇牌」於3月2 日凌晨四時十四分被抽取賽前尿液樣本。馬會賽事化驗所主管溫思明博士於當日上午十一時五十分向首席受薪董事報告,當日各參賽馬匹的賽前尿液樣本對違禁物質測試均呈陰性反應。


•「經典皇牌」在上述賽事落第,賽後被抽取了尿液和血液樣本以供進行化驗。溫思明博士在3月11日的化驗報告中向小組匯報,於3月2日從「經典皇牌」身上抽取的賽後樣本中,並無發現違禁物質。


•在相關賽事翌日,即3月3日星期日,「經典皇牌」提供了「現役馬匹」尿液樣本以供化驗。溫思明博士在3月19日的化驗報告中向小組匯報,於3月3日從「經典皇牌」身上抽取的樣本中,並無發現違禁物質。


•「經典皇牌」於3月7日星期四再次被抽取尿液及血液樣本以供進行「現役馬匹」樣本化驗。溫思明博士在3月18日的化驗報告中向小組匯報,於3月7日從「經典皇牌」身上抽取的樣本中,並無發現違禁物質。



正如3月2日賽事的競賽事件報告所述,「經典皇牌」的騎師鄭雨滇表示,接近一千七百米處時,「經典皇牌」顯得後肢鎖緊,動作嚴重失去平衡。他說,其後「經典皇牌」走勢欠順,在直路早段受催策後,末段被收慢。賽後獸醫隨即檢查「經典皇牌」,並無發現任何明顯異常之處。主任獸醫(賽事管制) 於3月3日星期日再替「經典皇牌」進行例行檢查時,亦無發現任何明顯異常之處。


到底咩事???








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註冊於: 21/03/2013
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發表於: 2013-03-22 on 15:55
船主现在到季尾要交多少??

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RodRod









註冊於: 05/10/2003
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Hong Kong
發表於: 2013-03-22 on 16:52
http://racing.scmp.com/freeservice/news/news20130321.asp

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晒馬samana









註冊於: 08/03/2006
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發表於: 2013-03-22 on 18:32
Quote:

On 2013-03-22 15:55, zdm1981 wrote:
船主现在到季尾要交多少??

船主依排好忙,等我做住知客先。。。。。
宜家至季尾仲有四個多月,按四個目計,每月人仔150.共人仔600、
如果你一次性交齐的,就跟船主說,係Sam哥介紹的,收你500,
優惠只限周日前辦理,快去辦理!


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pmengineers









註冊於: 23/11/2002
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Hong Kong
發表於: 2013-03-23 on 01:42
練馬師胡森昨晚聳人聽聞的指控,他的馬經典皇牌在上一賽可能已經被暗害(nobbled以減少其獲勝機會),或是被賽前過度熱心的賽前血液測試安排下受到不利影響,而香港賽馬會董事未能採取認真態度對待申訴。

經典皇牌(鄭雨滇),今季在燈光全天候跑道下獲得它的第二個勝利,但胡森希望把焦點正視圍繞馬在上賽3月2日的競賽不上名的事故。

胡森說:“有非常險惡的東西對經典皇牌在上賽前施放了、我曾投設、但我沒有被理會。"

“經典皇牌的眼睛擴張了、它一定是在賽前已經發生了很嚴重的事故,他跑了,尾二、負超過22個馬位以上給韋達事事為王韋達(Akeed Mofeed)。整件事情對我來說很怨臭。”

胡森聲稱,他的馬被血液測試花費大量的時間,這可能是構成經典皇牌跑得不好的主因。
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MichaelCox@SCMP Extract 21 Mar 2013
Trainer Sean Woods last night made the sensational allegation that his horse Free Judgement may have been nobbled before his last start, or was adversely affected by what he called over-zealous pre-race blood testing, and that Hong Kong Jockey Club stewards failed to take the claims seriously.

Free Judgement (Howard Cheng Yue-tin) swooped for his second all-weather track win under lights this season, but Woods wanted to put the focus squarely back on events surrounding the horse's last start failure on March 2.

"There was something very sinister about his run last time and I complained, but I was shot down," Woods said.

"His eyes were dilating and there was something seriously wrong with him before he ran and he was virtually pulled up more than 22 lengths behind Akeed Mofeed. The whole thing stunk to me."

Woods claimed his horse was blood-tested an inordinate amount of times in the lead up to the race, and that may have caused Free Judgement to run below his best.

Free Judgement lost his action around 100m after jumping from barrier 14 as a 54-1 shot during a Class Two handicap, stewards forcing the six-year-old to trial to their satisfaction before it could start again.

Free Judgement was one of four horses sent for post-race sampling, with tests coming back clear. But Woods cited last night's dramatic form reversal - albeit on a surface he clearly favours - as evidence his horse was somehow "got at" last start.

"He had dilated pupils, he was blinking all the time and they said he lost his action behind, but next day you couldn't hold him in the box, he was that well.

"We trialled him and the horse was amazing and has been amazing since that run. So this win was no surprise," said Woods, who claimed he had never seen anything like the horse's symptoms during his training career.

"I was very concerned about what had happened," he said.

"When you see something out of the ordinary you bring it to their attention, but all they [the HKJC stewards] have done is make my life more difficult."

HKJC Chief Steward Kim Kelly said the first his panel were made aware of Woods' concerns was on the Monday following the Saturday race meeting.

"Free Judgement was subjected to the same pre-race testing as the other 139 runners that day, he was tested post race and again the next day - those tests all came back clear," Kelly said, before defending the club's drug testing regime, calling it "rigorous K to ensure a level playing field."

Unlike the last nighttime meeting at Sha Tin when leaders ran riot on a biased surface also rated wet-slow, last night winners - like Free Judgement - were able to come from back in the field and wide.

Matthew Chadwick grabbed a double and moved to 37 winners for the term, further consolidating third place in the Jockeys' Championship and won the Jockey Challenge on countback.

Invictus (Weichong Marwing) won for the third time in four starts, all of them coming at 1,650m, continuing to appose trainer John Moore's initial assessment of him.

"I had him pegged as a sprinter, but I was wrong," Moore said. "He is a Keeper and they don't cost much at the sales, but they do well here - they handle all of the surfaces and are just good bread and butter Hong Kong horses."

The first two winners of the night took advantage of the track's turnaround in allowing backmarkers a chance - Plot Ratio (Alex Lai Hoi-wing) and Tipperary Davor (Douglas Whyte) both racing wide at stages and still finished strongly.

Whyte's win on Tipperary Davor stretched his lead in the Jockeys' Championship to four wins over Zac Purton, who was winless in three rides.


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shwong









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發表於: 2013-03-23 on 10:26
多謝船主、多謝PM:

其實以前和現在都有造馬,分別只係以前馬會會儘量禁止造馬,現在就設方立法協助練馬師造馬合理化。

舉一可見光的例子(卡洛斯先生所寫):

減得快好世界

卡洛斯 22/03/2013


過去筆者曾在本欄闡釋過評磅員各有不同的理念,故在國際評磅員大會中也經常有激烈的爭論,沒有放諸四海皆準的道理。讓我們看看在周三晚打開勝利之門的「愛得過」,上季末才運港自購馬,初始編三班評65分,十戰未獲獎金減到34分在五班跑,共減31分。此馬來港前贏膠沙地千七米,之前一仗跑草地一千仍獲減三分,隨即在泥地出頭。

評磅員能自圓其說

評磅員很少會錯,只要不是太蠢的評磅員一般都能自圓其說,評磅的理念不正是要讓每一匹馬都有相若的爭勝機會嗎?將一匹未獲分文獎金的馬,評分調低到具爭勝機會水平自然不會有錯。筆者以前做評磅工作,卻有不同的理念,一匹中長途馬跑最短途,演出當然不能反映其真正能力,而評磅員是應該根據馬匹在陣上所展現的能力來作評分的,換句話說,長途馬在最短途賽事中的表現,不能作為衡量其能力的標準。

現行的評磅政策有幾點考量,其一是鼓勵練馬師刻意替馬匹報跑不合腳法的路程場地,像「歡欣星」在泥地輸得不遠,接着連跑四場草地採用放領跑法大敗,減十一分轉回泥地換配備改為後追贏馬,製造了一些表面十分波動的賽績。

其二是鼓勵練馬師不用怎麼練馬,幾個月跑幾場減幾十分落到五班,稍有能力的馬不用怎麼催谷也可以贏。

其三是鼓勵馬主不必花錢買貴馬,快快手手減幾十分,一般能力的馬都可以贏。

我覺得263場次鄉村活力就是這樣。

將來應該重有奸仔航隻 開心駕到 份。


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JimmyMa









註冊於: 29/09/2006
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發表於: 2013-03-23 on 11:04
Quote:

On 2013-03-23 10:26, shwong wrote:
多謝船主、多謝PM:

其實以前和現在都有造馬,分別只係以前馬會會儘量禁止造馬,現在就設方立法協助練馬師造馬合理化。

舉一可見光的例子(卡洛斯先生所寫):

減得快好世界

卡洛斯 22/03/2013


過去筆者曾在本欄闡釋過評磅員各有不同的理念,故在國際評磅員大會中也經常有激烈的爭論,沒有放諸四海皆準的道理。讓我們看看在周三晚打開勝利之門的「愛得過」,上季末才運港自購馬,初始編三班評65分,十戰未獲獎金減到34分在五班跑,共減31分。此馬來港前贏膠沙地千七米,之前一仗跑草地一千仍獲減三分,隨即在泥地出頭。

評磅員能自圓其說

評磅員很少會錯,只要不是太蠢的評磅員一般都能自圓其說,評磅的理念不正是要讓每一匹馬都有相若的爭勝機會嗎?將一匹未獲分文獎金的馬,評分調低到具爭勝機會水平自然不會有錯。筆者以前做評磅工作,卻有不同的理念,一匹中長途馬跑最短途,演出當然不能反映其真正能力,而評磅員是應該根據馬匹在陣上所展現的能力來作評分的,換句話說,長途馬在最短途賽事中的表現,不能作為衡量其能力的標準。

現行的評磅政策有幾點考量,其一是鼓勵練馬師刻意替馬匹報跑不合腳法的路程場地,像「歡欣星」在泥地輸得不遠,接着連跑四場草地採用放領跑法大敗,減十一分轉回泥地換配備改為後追贏馬,製造了一些表面十分波動的賽績。

其二是鼓勵練馬師不用怎麼練馬,幾個月跑幾場減幾十分落到五班,稍有能力的馬不用怎麼催谷也可以贏。

其三是鼓勵馬主不必花錢買貴馬,快快手手減幾十分,一般能力的馬都可以贏。

我覺得263場次鄉村活力就是這樣。

將來應該重有奸仔航隻 開心駕到 份。


我又唔係咁睇法,每個練馬師都有自己嘅一套做法,而佢哋祗要無違反馬會所訂立各項規條,你理得我點樣內部混作同部署,就以操練為例,各人有各人手法。你唔可以話佢咁操唔啱,咁操先啱!明知唔夠人地隻馬跑,唔通仲操行哂隻馬同人隻鬥,咁即係呆九遮!依個卡洛斯有時講嘢都啱,但有時講嘢就亂嚟!做得成功嘅練馬師同做得刑事案律師都一樣,唔夠古惑點會成功呢!


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