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23/11/2006 §Ö¾Þ ¨F¥Ð ¥þ¤Ñ­Ô 31.6 (31.6) §U¤â
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µù¥U©ó: 23/11/2002
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µoªí©ó: 2007-01-11 on 16:54
Thanks for the view, Jimmy

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Not quite sure your view on ¹q¥ú¥|®g's form, any other member would like to give a comment?

"¦Ü©ó§Ú»¡¾Þ½m¤Wªºª¼ÂI, ¦p¦U¦ì¦³¬ã¨s§i厩¾Þ½m¤âªk, ±z¥iµf¬d¦¹廐®Iªù¤@¬P´Á¤º¤G/¤T½Ò¸õ°¨¤âªk, ¬P´Á¤TÁɨÆ, ¦b4.6.1,¦Ó¬P´Á¤»赛¨Æ, ¦b6.2.4,(¬P´Á¤é¤Î°²´ÁÁɨƨҥ~)±z¤£Ãøµoı¦p¦¹°¨¾Þ½m¤âªk, ³£¬O¿é, ³Ì¥{³£¬O¤T¤T¥|¥|...."

This is also new to me!! Any more evident to support? Or against the statement from others?

Back to the odds of ¹q¥ú¥|®g Bramble Blitz, it was 1 to 57 in R234, but last night was merely 1 to 10 all the way since tuesday which was even less than the winner Laser Power. Judging also from other pools (Q, Qp, T, FF, etc.), the figures showed quite a confident level expressed by a or some groups of punter......

What about Bramble Blitz's positions in the race?

My opinion is that his jockey Doleuze had already told us his determination to let the horse come to the front part and share at least the P/Q/Qp/T/FF pool money. Of course, such determination would not just rely on the sole will of the riding jockey or any others, but the form of the horse to flight in the track, isn't it? Perhaps MML would be able to give comments on this race regarding the performance of Bramble Blitz.

I am a little bit confused under the circumstance and your theory:

1/ Has the trainer under-estimated the capacity of his horse which was "revealed/reflect" in the morning training?
2/ Doleuze did not take the order of the trainer, if any, and act independently to let the horse run to its best performance/positions in the race?
3/ It all happens to be a surprise without any good reasons!

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µoªí©ó: 2007-01-11 on 17:58
I pay little attention to "training pattern". I don't mean it is futile. At least, it doesn't involve much time and for some people it's worth doing.

I believe majority of horses can maintain their fitness in line with the form cycle. I don't expect an upcoming young horse will become fatique suddenly after 2 or 3 good races, and thereafter resume to normal again dramatically. Of course, the trainers may have done some tricks, e.g. changing of head gear, feed, etc., to distract the public.

According to a stable worker, training of frequently raced horses need to be slackened a bit near the mid-season. Hence, we can see the gallop time of most stables not as fast as before. However, this may not apply to those freshly launched young horses. And the training programme varies from horse to horse; trainer to trainer; time to time .....

As far as I know, trainers pay close attention to the media and press. Whenever the training pattern or habit is highlighted for public's attention, it will likely be altered where practicable. As the public, we are always in the dark in this aspect.

RE: .... Perhaps MML would be able to give comments on this race regarding the performance of Bramble Blitz......
Later la ...... remind me if you don't hear from me after an unreasonable time.


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